eh, cards looked ok, gloss on the front of the card isn't near other cards. and they are nearly twice as think.. sigh, I can't play with these. I'll have to get another set done by someone who makes better product.. (and charges less!) my momma told me, "you better shop around." that's why I avoided large purchases. gave the guy a shot.. hey, they are great in card protectors.. I avoid those like the pluage.. anyway, happy hunting!